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-- #101

jnk said: I wonder if the software keeps track of what is used to pay the licensing fees to all the people whose images were used by the software. from what I remember there is no free lunch. it looks like @Sean and @warden will be billed soon, they can tell us how it works. LOL Click to expand...

The only billing I would receive would be if I continued to use the Dall-E generator, which granted 15 free attempts at creating a masterpiece before requiring money to continue. I did not subscribe to their service.

This will all end up in the courts, much like Napster and other early adopting technologies that push legal boundaries. Elon Musk is backing Dall-E, and that should be an indicator of where this is headed. It will be big.

- Sep 10, 2022

-- #102

RalphLambrecht

Joined Sep 19, 2003

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Location K,Germany

-- #103

4season said: Some of the initial interpretations were interesting, maybe thread-worthy in their own right.

Otherwise, just use the Duck (more private than you-know-who), to look those made-up words, which Midjourney is, as opposed to mid-journey. What's the difference? Pretty sure that you can't trademark "mid-journey".

Ikea, Apple, and others have been mostly using CGI (Computer Generated Imagery, people) for years, and now Ikea is (or was) even using synthetic influencers:

https://www.fastcompany.com/9054958...ake-for-years-now-its-taking-cgi-even-further

So far as I know, Porn Midjourney Tim Cook is still real. Probably. Mostly. Click to expand...

You're better off pick me up a camera and some film!

Regards

Ralph W. Lambrecht rwlambrec@gmail.com http://www.rlambrec.com flckr page: https://63d5415145c2b.site123.me

-- #104

warden said: The only billing I would receive would be if I continued to use the Dall-E generator, which granted 15 free attempts at creating a masterpiece before requiring money to continue. I did not subscribe to their service.

This will all end up in the courts, much like Napster and other early adopting technologies that push legal boundaries. Elon Musk is backing Dall-E, and that should be an indicator of where this is headed. It will be big. Click to expand...

If the porn industry is an early adopter it will go mainstream, but Elon Musk ? He's a false prophet.

I'd keep an eye on your email, there maybe a class action law suit.

-- #105

Next logical step: no more need for wedding photographers. Next to the iphone soivenir snaps getting uploaded and shared, this midjourney thingy will take care of the rest.

Upload portaits of your grandparents and make them live again through this midjourney sheet.

-- #106

NB23 said: Next logical step: no more need for wedding photographers. Next to the iphone soivenir snaps getting uploaded and shared, this midjourney thingy will take care of the rest.

Upload your face and your new spouse’s Face and then ask midjourney to spit out beautiful photos of your couple in whichever setting possible: on the moon, in hell, in heaven, on the kremlin, on the eiffel tower... goodbye photography. Only the iphone will survive.

Upload portaits of your grandparents and make them live again through this midjourney sheet. Click to expand...

I think that's already totally possible. Remember the xmas thing which put your face on a dancing elf or some such stupid thing? Years old and getting "better" all the time.

-- #107

NB23 said: Upload portaits of your grandparents and make them live again through this midjourney sheet. Click to expand...

Too late, already happened.

-- #108

Yes but this midjourney sheet just perfected this sheet.

-- #109

warden said:

This post brings a full understanding of Midjourney to me. Thank you and take a bow.

-- #110

This guy is a Photoshop guru and has been experimenting with using Dall-E as a tool to change cropping of traditional still photographs by adding detail. Note that at the 1:45 mark the software rejects the sample image because it has a real (and presumably recognizable) face on it. I imagine the Dall-E legal team is about as busy as the programmers, trying to avoid missteps.

-- #111

warden said: Too late, already happened.

‘Deep Nostalgia’ Can Turn Old Photos of Your Relatives Into Moving Videos

Deep Nostalgia is meant to bring still shots, even those not captured on a modern smartphone, to life. gizmodo.com

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I did that. I have a living memory pet and a hologram girlfriend too.

-- #112

That is already obsolete. You now have programs that create a 360 view in which you can dive, all from a single Photograph.

We are a step away of living into a virtual reality, many lives within one.

OP

NB23

Joined Jul 26, 2009

Messages 4,267

-- #113

We are in HELL, my dear BROSKIES.

ALL my posts are to be read with an aMaZeBaLLs BARRY WHITE voice.

grat

Joined May 8, 2020

Messages 2,031

Location Gainesville, FL

-- #114

pentaxuser said: How did you work that out from his enigmatic thread title of Mid-journey The link was just a series of pictures to me, some just strange, others amusing and strange

Is my perception or lack of it perhaps conditioned by a diet of bangers and mash, warm beer and dark nights in winter at 52 degrees North ?

pentaxuser Click to expand...

I went back to the main page and clicked on #about.

-- #115

NB23 said: We are in HELL, my dear BROSKIES. Click to expand...

Will these AI developed images alter the way you make your photographs?

-- #116

jnk said: Will these AI developed images alter the way you make your photographs? Click to expand...

They may alter how many photos get bought and how many photographers and illustrators get contracted for work.

-- #117

Don Heisz said: They may alter how many photos get bought and how many photographers and illustrators get contracted for work. Click to expand...

Most stock photographs suck now anyways so it will probably be a good thing.

Don_ih

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-- #118

jnk said: Most stock photographs suck now anyways so it will probably be a good thing. Click to expand...

And then what does a photographer get for a stock image now, anyway? A bag of beans?

Sirius Glass

Joined Jan 18, 2007

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- Sep 11, 2022

-- #119

Don Heisz said: And then what does a photographer get for a stock image now, anyway? A bag of beans? Click to expand...

Bragging rights and no money if they are lucky.

Warning!! Handling a Hasselblad can be harmful to your financial well being!

Nothing beats a great piece of glass!

jnk

Joined Sep 8, 2022

Messages 90

Location here

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-- #120

Sirius Glass said: Bragging rights and no money if they are lucky. Click to expand...

you mean like "stratabarius" posted 10 years ago when interns and lackies searched amateur photo sites found his photo for a Coca Cola campaign and paid him 100 bucks to use a photo in an ad campaign? he was very excited when he posted.

it changes very little, nothing burger.

snusmumriken

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- Sep 12, 2022

-- #121

It's OK, guys. Not all of civilisation is going down the technology route. (Photo credit to my wife.)

Jonathan Reynolds www.allmyeye.co.uk

warden

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- Oct 18, 2022

-- #122

In case y'all missed it, Jörg Colberg has a few thoughts about Dall.E. While the bulk of the article is behind a Patreon paywall you can still get a good idea of what he has been up to. Basically he tried to use Dall.E to make original work that is paired with images in his new book of photography. It's worth a look.

Regardless, when I learned that the full version was accessible, I wondered whether it was possible to test the software on a photographic level. By this I mean that I wanted to see whether it was able to create believable images that could operate inside the context of photography I work in, fine-art photography. To that end, I decided I would have Dall.E generate its own versions of the photographs in my book Vaterland.

Dall.E Vaterland

cphmag.com

- Dec 27, 2022

-- #123

I hope this post would not be offensive, so here below I include some "almost impossible" cameras that I made in that app related with analog process. What can I say? this thing is addictive.

Last edited: Dec 27, 2022

-- #124

Here's a couple of awkward parallels between analog photography and Midjourney:

First, the unpredictable results. I used this prompt:

story about young photographers pushing creative boundaries to capture the vibrancy of NYC night life during the 1990s

... and I got those, a sort of contact sheets print:

...then I chose one of them as my "developing process"...

... and of course, you can screw it also. Here an "overdeveloped" example.

bonus track:

(A Contact Sheet Print: Che Guevara in his office, Cuba, 1963, Rene Burri).

Algo después

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- Jan 4, 2023

-- #125

...Obviously, there are some ethical questions about authorship here, etc., but in any case, as in other moments in history, the appearance of some technical innovation is initially assumed to be a threat to a certain guild and then ends up coexisting with other technical or artistic preferences. It happened with the advent of photography for painters in the 19th century, I guess it must have happened with Photoshop at that time as well.

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